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  • #382159

    HopKin
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    Hello there everyone, I really hope that this post is going to be helpful for someone out there. so well.. a few days ago, at night, I have been in my bed, and my legs just kept on tensing up, I could feel it. unfortunately, this meant I have been tossing and turning, and could not get over to sleep, which is obvious. After been suffering like that for a little while I have remembered that I am having some magnesium. Well, of course I thought that I must take it and so I’ve got up, I’ve taken one and I have went back to sleep. Amazingly but within like half an hour or so, I have already been fast asleep!! Therefore, of course, I am recommending magnesium to other people as well who are dealing with the same issues as I do.
    And yeah, by the way, here’s a warning about magnesium: the magnesium oxide it is the most common magnesium that you can find and that is purchased in the shops, the problem is that this is the magnesium that is absorbed the most poorly. Please make sure that you don’t get magnesium oxide. In addition to that, magnesium can have you going to the toilet as well, due to the fact that this is a laxative (in case you didn’t know), and again, the magnesium oxide it is the worst for this.

    I personally am using magnesium malate, and I do find this one to be much more better absorbed and in addition to that it is also having a much less likely chance to have a laxative effective either which is a double win, at least for me. in case you are wondering where and what exactly I am purchasing… I get mine from Source Naturals Magnesium Malate and I am purchasing it from amazon and for me it is perfect, it suits me just wonderfully! However I can still tell you that Magnesium Malate it is my second choice, as there’s my first choice out there which is magnesium glycinate which was just a little bit too expensive for me, but it is amazing which I can also recommend it to you, but depending on what suits you better and of course, on your financial situation.
    And so… in the end, magnesium… just try it out as it is worth it, trust me you are going to be surprised, at least I personally was. The amazing part is that there’s absolutely no need for the tranquilizers, however, you should not stop using them due to the fact that there might be some really bad withdrawals that can result. For those who don’t know it: tranquilizers should be weaned off gradually so please, if you want to stop with them, don’t stop cold turkey. I really hope that this is going to be helpful for someone out there. wishing you good luck and hopefully you are going to get same help as I did from using magnesium

  • #382160

    SerranoAm
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    It is true that it is a laxative and that’s why I know that it is really good for constipation in case you are on opiates and you need something to help you with that. I know it first hand as I am taking 1000 units of it every day and I am on opiates so it does wonders for the constipation, works amazing. maybe it also helps to keep away some other side effects but since they are kept away, I don’t know that it helps, lol. anyway… it can be used for relaxing muscles but it also can be used as laxative too. Just something that might be helpful…

  • #382161

    HopKin
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    oh yeah, when I read OPs post I’ve been thinking exactly the same as you… I mean…

    It is true that it is a laxative and that’s why I know that it is really good for constipation in case you are on opiates and you need something to help you with that. I know it first hand as I am taking 1000 units of it every day and I am on opiates so it does wonders for the constipation, works amazing

    So yes, if you are suffering from constipation from the opiates (because I know that there are a lot of people suffering from constipation by taking opiates, or simply having constipation…), magnesium oxide it is the best for it, however I don’t actually agree with this part:

    maybe it also helps to keep away some other side effects but since they are kept away, I don’t know that it helps, lol. anyway… it can be used for relaxing muscles but it also can be used as laxative too

    That’s because if you are using it purely for muscle relaxation then in fact I would advise against magnesium oxide and better go for what OP recommended.

  • #382162

    Lamonegre
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    oh wow… you’re kidding me… I would never think about this myself.. this site is continuously giving me just good things to know and good pointers. Magnesium oxide for constipation – check! Gonna keep this one handy.
    Also wanted to ask you people… is there somebody who is taking milk thistle for liver health? To be honest I am not very sure how long it would take, however a drinker who is using 5 or maybe even more pain pills per day, as much as I can think… will most likely have some issues with his or her liver one day. I do know that genetics matter very much, however taking so many pills a day would have an negative effect for sure. There’s one of my close friends out there who has been using like 10 pills or so per day, every single day, and he has also been drinking until he has been passing out every night! He has been doing it until he has finally got into an accident (we do agree that he has been asking for this) and got arrested for his 3rd DUI. He has then been put in the jail for 90 days, however when he has still been in the hospital after he had the accident, they apparently has tested his liver and it has been just fine. it just seems that there are some people who are prone to cirrhosis while there are other people who does not as much as it seems. But whichever the case, I still think that even if he wouldn’t get into that accident and wouldn’t stop doing whatever he has been doing for years, he would still end up really bad. It is just his genetics which prolonged the time until it gets worse IMO.
    Sorry for getting off topic BTW…

  • #382163

    HelenE
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    Lamonegre hello there. just wanted to comment on the milk thistle and telling you that I do use it for liver health, however I drink the tea. I personally believe very much in trying to protect our liver (and yeah, other organs as well) and that’s especially when we are having to use some medicines that are being connected to things like for example liver damage or whatever organs damages. Yeah, I totally do agree with you that there is a genetic factor involved as well, exactly as you described in the situation with your friend and thank goodness that his liver is fine… but in the same time, exactly as you said, I also agree that if he (or she) would have continued like that for years then the liver wouldn’t have resisted and sooner or later he (or she) would have liver issues. the genetic factor, as you said, just prologues the time until that’s going to be a problem.
    I can say that not so long ago I have found out about the dandelion coffee and I can tell you that it is also a liver detoxifier. I can tell you that there are also a lot of other health benefits of the dandelion as well, like for example that it is helping with constipation, that it is preventing acne, UTIs, plack prevention (on your teeth I’m talking), as well as a lot of other things that are good for our health, however in the end, the main reason why I’ve got interested in it and wanted to try it out it is because it provides liver protection.
    For those people out there who might be interested in giving it a try and see how it works I can tell you that it does tastes pretty much like instant coffee, and that’s why for those of us who are used to the brewed stuff or like for example starbucks, this is an acquired taste, however now I do really love it!

    Now I should say that due to the fact that I have been on the medications that can hurt my liver for such such a long period of time now (more than 20 years by the way), I have also been using milk thistle and dandelion too. But I can tell you that there are also some teas available that you could get yourself at the grocery store that it is for liver detox (however, unfortunately, I just cannot tell you who is creating them, but I’m quite sure you could find it yourself easily). Not trying to say that this is something 100% true, but at least in my own opinion, I do think that purchasing these kinds of herb concoctions at a health food store, only because of the fact that I am not very sure of the potency of the teas and so on and so forth, from a grocery store…
    Really hoping that this is going to be somehow helpful to you guys.

  • #382164

    Delph
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    So… for the muscle spasms that I have, I am using 400 mg of the magnesium orotate every single day and I can tell you that this stuff indeed does helps me very and very much. The spasms, cramps and so on and so forth with it slightly helping the bowel movement either, so I definitely do recommend it. I can tell you that I have also tried the natural magnesium either which I have noticed that it does helps with the muscular spasms very well too, however it just has the side effect of getting the bowel moving a lot much more faster and that’s why I recommend specifically the magnesium orotate for those who get these spasms and want to stay away from bowel movements.

    But I tell you that both of them are working very and very good for leg spasms and for cramps, my choice would still be, of course, the 400 mg of the magnesium orotate, one tablet taken once every day… and that’s instead of their recommendation which is 2 tablets taken 3 times per day (which means a total of 6 tablets a day, compared to just one – the way I take it). at least for me… I personally can’t really see any need for it in my case as the one single 400 mg tablet is doing the job very well and I am satisfied with the results that I get from one tablet daily, why would I take more when there’s everything alright and there’s no need for me to take more?
    I am a convert through and through. Can tell you that the magnesium orotate 100 tablets are being sold anywhere between 17 and 19 bucks here, locally, in the time that the natural magnesium which comes in 120 tablets are being sold anywhere between 28 and 40 bucks here locally. Therefore it is much more convenient to get the magnesium orotate and most importantly is that I spend very and very little for my one tablet a day need and it helps immensely. But anyway… in the end I guess that each with their own and even if you go for the natural magnesium you’re still going to pay a very little price (the worse would be $ 40 for 3 months, which is nothing, but I pay even less than that).

  • #382165

    HopKin
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    Thank you guys for replying and for sharing your opinions. Also I’m glad to see that other people discovered that the magnesium can be really helpful against the cramps and for muscle relaxation. Also thank you very much for your other recommendations and tips. I just wanted to update here and to prove how actually helpful these things are.
    Well, the last night I have went to bed as usual and then there’s my legs that would not relax at all. although I have been really tired after a hard day of work, I was still not able to get comfortable and I have been tossing and turning around like that. I couldn’t understand what’s going on but then I have remembered that I had forgotten to take my usual daily magnesium tablet and of course I got up and I have taken it, been wondering whether would it help me this time or not. wasn’t thinking too much about this as I have already been asleep in no time. today I woke up realizing how actually helpful magnesium is. That’s why I just recommend it once again for those who have similar issues to mine.

  • #382166

    Thersesom
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    So yes, if you are suffering from constipation from the opiates (because I know that there are a lot of people suffering from constipation by taking opiates, or simply having constipation…), magnesium oxide it is the best for it, however I don’t actually agree with this part:
    [quote]maybe it also helps to keep away some other side effects but since they are kept away, I don’t know that it helps, lol. anyway… it can be used for relaxing muscles but it also can be used as laxative too [/quote]
    That’s because if you are using it purely for muscle relaxation then in fact I would advise against magnesium oxide and better go for what OP recommended.

    Just wanted to comment on this part and wanted to say that this is a very good short clarification. So thanks. If there’s somebody out there who is searching for magnesium oxide brand in order to help with being backed up, then the Nature Made High Potency Magnesium, 400 mg (the green capsules) does contain that type of magnesium.
    I just wanted to ask you… does it say what type on the bottle? There’s my acupuncturist, who unfortunately I have not seen a really long time now, have explained to me the difference one time. I did have passed the information on to the doctor I’ve been seeing (she is a progressive woman) and to my chiro too (she really loves to learn as much as possible). I’m very happy to see this information somewhere else as it just proves that it is true. and yeah, I already knew that it is true, but I’m just happy seeing it being posted once again. Back in the time when I had issues with clenching my jaw, the magnesium has been an really important stuff in my attempt of solving it. I mean, magnesium has not been the only thing that has done the trick all by itself alone, however it has been a great vitamin (mineral) that has been very important. also gotta say that one of those reasons as to why we have to take it in the form of a pill, is that we are not able any longer to get it from the food and that’s because of the sad fact that we have already over farmed too much of our soil. It is not in the soil very much anymore, and I find it really sad, and so it does not get into the food as it is grown, unfortunately. Really hoping that this does makes any sense at all…

    One more thing here… not so long ago my doctor has recommended me to add back to my vitamin regimen the magnesium malate kind and that’s why I do believe 100% your words of how helpful it can be. also thank you a lot for the amazon recommendation as I really love buying stuff from amazon. I’m already using amazon getting a lot of my stuff and now it seems I’m going to use it for my magnesium malate as well. Delph… I’ve also been interested in asking you… what it is the magnesium Orotate that you have mentioned earlier in your post… I can see it listed Magnesium Malate (good for the muscles) and the Magnesium Oxide (good for constipation)… it is the Magnesium Orotate the another kind of thing?? or it is maybe a brand or something? Please… and thanks.

  • #382167

    Delph
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    Thersesom… and this is the reason why I am preferring the magnesium ororate one tablet only as being opposed to 6 of them per day as it has been recommended… that’s very gentle on the tummy and it does not have you running to the lavatory all of the time… I am taking my one tablet 400 mg of the dosage in the morning and that tablet does everything that for the entire day… cramp and spasms free day… I do believe that what the orotate does it is a nice balance between the full oxide version and the natural version which is having no metal in it.
    And so, it really works amazingly for me. and yeah, also, Thersesom… the magnesium orotate it is surely another type of thing… you’ve got to do a little bit of research on it and it might surprise you on how actually helpful and good this stuff is. I have only started to use it due to the fact that after they put in dads stent they have recommended that it has been a very and very helpful supplement without the nasty side effect of having to run to the lavatory. As I have already said it… you are being supposed to use 6 of them a day according to the instructions that you are going to get with them, however, as I have mentioned this in my previous post, I am only using one single tablet of 400 mg per day and it gets the job done very and very well… that’s 6 times less the dosage per day they are recommending and that’s still doing the job. Don’t get me wrong but I think that this is pretty much done in order to make money out…
    Once dad has had his heart even they have put him on this as the statins tend to attack the muscle to such a bad degree that it is causing spasms… and so that’s how my father ended up on this and that’s how I ended up on this… purely accidental, but I am glad I did as I now feel a lot much more better.

  • #382168

    Thersesom
    Participant

    Delph, thank you very much, I definitely will… so a third type… that’s truly very interesting… I have had no ideas… thank you very much for sharing I can feel that it is going to help… also I am definitely going to google about it and read as much as I can. Thanks again for everything.

  • #382169

    HopKin
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    Thersesom, yeah, it should say what type of magnesium it is on the bottle. However, in case it does not then I would assume that it is the most common one which is the magnesium oxide, which at least to my opinion, it is only any good for the constipation.
    As I have said it earlier in my posts, magnesium glycinate it is most likely the best absorbed one, however, I guess I have also said that in my earlier posts, this one is pretty expensive and it is too expensive for me, this is the reason why I am going for the magnesium malate, however in case there’s no financial problem for someone else then magnesium glycinate is really good. but since that’s not the case for me I went for the magnesium malate which, as much as I have heard it was really good as well and it has been proved so as it has worked for me very well…
    And yeah, thank you very much for your over farming the soil explanation that you’ve given up there… it really does makes sense to me.

  • #382175

    Fiuman
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    I personally am using magnesium oxide and melatonin for the sleep and it does works as the time has shown that it has been working always very and very good for me. originally, I would have added the mag in order to offset the constipation issues that are being caused by the supplementation with the iron. I am currently wondering if I should switch to another form of the magnesium either since I can see here that the magnesium oxide it is the least preferred form… now that I’m here I really wanted to ask you… does the magnesium orotate or the magnesium malate you’re talking about here have any negative (or maybe even positive) effects on the gastro systems? Would really appreciate if someone could help me. oh yeah, also the supplementation with the magnesium for the health of thyroid, that’s something I’m really interested into as well.
    One more thing here… I’ve just read that the vitamin C it is not good if is being used with the magnesium. Saying that because the cocktail that I have before going to bed it contains of melatonin, a lot of this vitamin C as well as iron tablets or liquid iron as well… just when I am thinking that I have a good system down… there’s my life that revolves around you vacant take this with that and you are going to have to take this one on an empty stomach and to avoid calcium for at least 4 hours and so on and so forth… oufghdghhhhh

  • #382179

    HopKin
    Participant

    Well, just wanted to answer your question as I do have an exact answer to it:

    now that I’m here I really wanted to ask you… does the magnesium orotate or the magnesium malate you’re talking about here have any negative (or maybe even positive) effects on the gastro systems? Would really appreciate if someone could help me. oh yeah, also the supplementation with the magnesium for the health of thyroid, that’s something I’m really interested into as well.

    And so, the magnesium malate it is much more easier on the gastro system than the common magnesium oxide or citrate so if you’re looking for something that’s gonna be easier, I guess you’ve already got your answer for which one you should search.
    I’ve got to tell you that I am having IBS though and so my gastro system it is always being upset, however I am taking the magnesium malate and I tell you that by doing this I haven’t noticed absolutely anything to get worsened or anything in this matter. even if you have IBS you’re going to be all fine, as I am, but if you do not have IBS then you’re even better with it.
    But I wanted to ask you… why you cannot take the vitamin C and the magnesium together?

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